I do hope that "The Last Battle" just names it as the last battle in the arc, but...what is there left for the Signers to do after defeating the Dark Signers? That was pretty much their duty. Unless more DS's come or something there wouldn't be much to do, and it would be random plotlines popping up like in the first two series, and that got rather...boring. I really don't want that to happen to 5D's, I fear that it may lose its epic.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the condor-shirt, I was confused by that as well. It made me wonder (that and other things) what Rexykins was really up to, and I wondered if that was a shirt showing his alliances, or a shirt to remind him of what he must defeat? This recent ambigoutity with Rudger also made me curious (and I wonder whether Rudger still retains a shred of humanity from when he made that promise with Rexy, and that he's trying to stop what he incurred as repetenance...IDK.)
Jeager would be so lol. It doesn't help that Giovanni-lookalike is so damn suspicious.
I sort of had doubts when I heard (or thought I heard) him say "Yuusei-ou." Even if it wasn't "King Yuusei", it's apparently what Kiryuu called Yuu during his first appearance and duel, and that already puts me on guard.
I think they brought it up briefly in Rudger's flashback, I think he claimed that he was approached by a man from Yliaster. I know I at least heard it said between their conversation. But, that could be an interesting subplot at the very-the Signers finding out that what they're fighting for is a lie, because, really, the only thing we know about Yliaster is from Rexposition, and we can't exactly trust the guy. It could lead to some interesting breaks in the bonds...I'm liking this idea already.
You know it'll totally be like that. The only character who has to show up is the pharaoh, to put the main character in their place at the end. "Bitch, I'm the pharaoh, and even though I play Vintage I can still kick your Standard ass."
I'm with you there! They can't end 5D's now! They can go right ahead and end the arc (must be done epically of course...) but... You just can't end epic things like this short of 100 episodes! idk
I'm going for Giovanni as the man with two gods! Haha. I'm actually thinking Rex, for sure. Maybe he took Rex's ripped off arm, grossly attached it and is now running around as the fifth Signer? idk
I have to say that I enjoyed reading your theories. They're very well thought out and show much love to the series ^^
I agree with starnotes for the title. It could just be a climatic title that they use for the episode, like "The battle for the fate of the Earth!" or something to that extent. I don't think that it's really going to be the end of the series; just a title specific to the events of the episode.
Although, I can't really imagine what plot would follow the DS arc. But I haven't thought that much into it and honesty forgot most of the history behind the Yliaster from the earlier episodes XD;
I like the idea of Yuusei being or possessing the key, especially with what we were told from Rudger about Yuusei's name history. That he was named that way so that he could create bonds with other people. Why not make bonds with the underworld? That could be a stretch, but maybe do-able? XD There have been weirder things out there in this show. LIKE CARD GAMES ON MOTORBIKES XD
As for the King, it taking the form of Fudou-papa would be epic because it just would, but now I have a feeling that it's someone else maybe. Right now it's that guy that Rudger meet when he visited the Nazca Lines that I'm thinking about for the King. The shady guy seemed to know what he was doing giving Rudger that information AND knowing the birthmark on his arm, that eventually lead up to Zero Reverse that separated the cities only to connect the Underworld with the Real world.
I agree with her as well, her theory was an idea I didn't expect, and I think it would work out really well.
My idea was more like the King would use his bonds to his advantage, and use them to spread...(which is why I imagine the EBG boss to be the Tree mark, it's roots would drain those sorrowful feelings from Yuusei, because he is the one who connects everyone, the one who empathizes with and recieves everyone's pain. The tree spreads by growing and feeding.) But yours could work as well.
Mmm, now I'm kind of excited to see what's behind the DS door and what the writer's have in store for us. *bounces excitedly*
OMG! A tree EBG would be AMAZING! I'd love to see how the animators would come up with that XD And I like that idea too, though it would mean that Yuusei will have to be plantraeped again. XD But a tree is more symbolic, plus if done right, it could add some good character development for poor Yuu.
XD I did too, until you mentioned him above. I'm so curious about who he is though cause he just kind of popped out of nowhere very randomly. I hope he does have something more to do with the plot and doesn't leave as randomly as he came in XD;
5D's won't be ending so soon. I think the last battle just means the Signers vs. the last Dark Signer. idk.
Also, I wanna say Rex is the man with two Gods, like the Condor and maybe the ULTIMATE EARTHBOUND GOD. Or, he has Rudger's dragon. Cause we don't know what happened to that thing.
And I think it was Morgan Fudo who was talking to Yuusei? I mean, he said it wasn't his time to be there...and you would think a father would tell his son that if he cared and was the King of the Underworld. ( Or, King of Mormetn? ) While he might be King of the Underworld, he still considered himself as a father to his son. ( Also, Rudger possibly might have targeted Yuusei because he was the son of the leader of the Mormetn Project or whatever it was called? ;; )
LOL NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE CAUSE I'M KIND OF OUT OF IT.
But I did have a theory about the Earthbound Gods and how they chose people...
...Morgan Fudo? Wat? Is that your name for him? (I use Yuuen Fudo, IDK )
(Yeah, I can see why people were thinking that, I mean, he did say that he had to settle the score of seventeen years ago with Fudo's son...I just wondered if there was the possiblity of that being an excuse, or perhaps a thought instilled into him by the negative rotation. Because when White-Tux told him to get rid of Fudo-papa, Rudger was initially "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >O " It was only after the godraep that he was changed...so I perhaps thought that maybe there was still some humanity left, triggered by the duel with his younger brother, perhaps?. D: )
LOL, It's cause I said he was like God and was Morgan Freeman. So I called him MORGAN PAPA or MORGAN FUDO.
( Yeah, that makes sense...and I was thinking Rex and Rudger didn't even duel. They kind of just talked and Rex was like "I don't want to kill my older brother' or something. Or, he set off Mormetn so that Yuusei could meet his father who is the King of the Underworld, AND THE WHOLE THING IS ORCHESTRATED BY FUDO-PAPA and that is why Yuusei is targeted. ) ...did I think too much into that?
;__; I'M LIKE DUUURRRR RIGHT NOW.
Oh, well, I was thinking the Earthbound Gods chose people who had connections to the Signers in some way. And that they choose the person when they are dieing ( or are very close to dieing ) and then try to persuade them. I don't really think it has anything to do with them wanting to live ( although it might play a part in it ) it's just they choose the time when they are mentally vulnerable and that them 'entering' the person's body is actually the thing that kills them. I mean, you never know WHY Misty was in the hospital, and the doctors might have been able to cure her. ( And while I was thinking that Misty didn't even have a brother and was brainwashed by her God, I'm starting to think maybe not? ) Kiryu, while he might have had a hatred for Yuusei, seemed to be pretty mentally vulnerable. So if that is true, then nothing really caused his death besides his Earthbound God. ( And for Signer connections: Kiryu - Yuusei, Misty - Aki, Rudger - Himself, Carly - Jack, Demak I think said that he had an intense hatred for the Signers, and Bomber...I don't know about him. )
OKAY, NONE OF THAT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE. But, what I'm thinking is maybe the Earthbound Gods have something involved about the Dark Signers 'first death'? Like THEY are the ones who caused the deaths of them. ( And Carly falling out the window...maybe Aslla piscu had an eye on her and while she was falling (s)he made it's move right before she hit the ground? )
I'M NOT DOING MUCH BETTER. I SHOULD REALLY BE SLEEPING RIGHT NOW.
Actually, that theory makes lots of sense. I never really thought about it in great detail before, I just assumed they picked people who died with regrets/vengance.
AND I'D MAKE A LONGER REPLY, REALLY I WOULD, BUT I'M TIRED AND I SHOULD BE SLEEPING SO I CAN WAKE UP IN TIME FOR THE FFFFFGLEEEE TOMORROW MORNING.
Actually, I meant that the revenge part / them wanting to continue living played as much as Misty made it out to be. ( I don't remember if anyone else had said something about that. ) But she kept saying it was because it chose her and that it was her fate / destiny, as well as it was because she wanted to keep living.
( Also, I am about to bawww thinking about the episode. ;______; )
STILL NOT FULLY AWAKE YET BUT I'D FEEL HORRIBLE IF I DIDN'T ATTEMPT TO REPLY.
...And wow. I'm impressed with the thought that you two put into these deaths.
(A lot of the DS's seem to like preaching about fate, don't they? It's GX's season two's "destiny" all over again...except this time, it's riveting. :D
I heard that in July we'll get a new opening so I doubt that the show will end. Probably will move on to Ylliaster. Or perhaps if Divine gets retrieved we'll have also some more Arcradia Movement.
For me, the man with the two gods, clearly is Rex, the two gods being a generic titel for the EBGs and the Crimson Dragon (or perhaps 5th Dragon, but personally I don't see the Dragons as gods).
Your theory about Yusei being the one to connect with the KoU makes sense. Somehow. Can't elaborate that (*is still to sleepy for that*). But I don't think it is actually Fudou-papa even if he is the one to appear at the end of 58. I don't even think that what we see in 58 is the Underworld. I think that Zombieworld is more like a rift-thing between worlds (Real World und Underworld) and "You shouldn't be there yet" is more like scolding him that it isn't is time to die.
Oh well that are my two cents in a nutshell. I'd write more but I've got to get ready for school. ^^°
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the condor-shirt, I was confused by that as well. It made me wonder (that and other things) what Rexykins was really up to, and I wondered if that was a shirt showing his alliances, or a shirt to remind him of what he must defeat? This recent ambigoutity with Rudger also made me curious (and I wonder whether Rudger still retains a shred of humanity from when he made that promise with Rexy, and that he's trying to stop what he incurred as repetenance...IDK.)
Jeager would be so lol. It doesn't help that Giovanni-lookalike is so damn suspicious.I sort of had doubts when I heard (or thought I heard) him say "Yuusei-ou." Even if it wasn't "King Yuusei", it's apparently what Kiryuu called Yuu during his first appearance and duel, and that already puts me on guard.
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(Alright. See you later. ;; )
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...although I'm honestly hoping that the DM characters don't show up. Them showing up made GX look like a bad high school fanfic.
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I'm going for Giovanni as the man with two gods! Haha. I'm actually thinking Rex, for sure. Maybe he took Rex's ripped off arm, grossly attached it and is now running around as the fifth Signer? idk
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Giovanni, for me, is the second most likely candidate. ^^ After Yuu (because the main character always goes first).
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>^_^<
MEOW!
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I have to say that I enjoyed reading your theories. They're very well thought out and show much love to the series ^^
I agree with
Although, I can't really imagine what plot would follow the DS arc. But I haven't thought that much into it and honesty forgot most of the history behind the Yliaster from the earlier episodes XD;
I like the idea of Yuusei being or possessing the key, especially with what we were told from Rudger about Yuusei's name history. That he was named that way so that he could create bonds with other people. Why not make bonds with the underworld? That could be a stretch, but maybe do-able? XD There have been weirder things out there in this show. LIKE CARD GAMES ON MOTORBIKES XD
As for the King, it taking the form of Fudou-papa would be epic because it just would, but now I have a feeling that it's someone else maybe. Right now it's that guy that Rudger meet when he visited the Nazca Lines that I'm thinking about for the King. The shady guy seemed to know what he was doing giving Rudger that information AND knowing the birthmark on his arm, that eventually lead up to Zero Reverse that separated the cities only to connect the Underworld with the Real world.
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I agree with her as well, her theory was an idea I didn't expect, and I think it would work out really well.
My idea was more like the King would use his bonds to his advantage, and use them to spread...(which is why I imagine the EBG boss to be the Tree mark, it's roots would drain those sorrowful feelings from Yuusei, because he is the one who connects everyone, the one who empathizes with and recieves everyone's pain. The tree spreads by growing and feeding.) But yours could work as well.
...I totally forgot about that guy. XD
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OMG! A tree EBG would be AMAZING! I'd love to see how the animators would come up with that XD And I like that idea too, though it would mean that Yuusei will have to be plantraeped again. XD But a tree is more symbolic, plus if done right, it could add some good character development for poor Yuu.
XD I did too, until you mentioned him above. I'm so curious about who he is though cause he just kind of popped out of nowhere very randomly. I hope he does have something more to do with the plot and doesn't leave as randomly as he came in XD;
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Actually I did do something similar with this RP account. I was totally using the poor twins as a way to show what I thought would happen.
The Journal Entry that started it all: http://1andnotthesame.livejournal.com/779.html
A bit of explanation: http://community.livejournal.com/ygodressing/997519.html?thread=64455311#t64455311
Maybe the man in the white tux is Giovanni?
...Nah. Not the right facial structure. :O
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5D's won't be ending so soon. I think the last battle just means the Signers vs. the last Dark Signer. idk.
Also, I wanna say Rex is the man with two Gods, like the Condor and maybe the ULTIMATE EARTHBOUND GOD. Or, he has Rudger's dragon. Cause we don't know what happened to that thing.
And I think it was Morgan Fudo who was talking to Yuusei? I mean, he said it wasn't his time to be there...and you would think a father would tell his son that if he cared and was the King of the Underworld. ( Or, King of Mormetn? ) While he might be King of the Underworld, he still considered himself as a father to his son. ( Also, Rudger possibly might have targeted Yuusei because he was the son of the leader of the Mormetn Project or whatever it was called? ;; )
LOL NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE CAUSE I'M KIND OF OUT OF IT.
But I did have a theory about the Earthbound Gods and how they chose people...
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...Morgan Fudo? Wat? Is that your name for him? (I use Yuuen Fudo, IDK )
(Yeah, I can see why people were thinking that, I mean, he did say that he had to settle the score of seventeen years ago with Fudo's son...I just wondered if there was the possiblity of that being an excuse, or perhaps a thought instilled into him by the negative rotation. Because when White-Tux told him to get rid of Fudo-papa, Rudger was initially "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >O " It was only after the godraep that he was changed...so I perhaps thought that maybe there was still some humanity left, triggered by the duel with his younger brother, perhaps?. D: )
I'M NOT VERY AWAKE EITHER. Dl
I'd like to hear that theory, tho.
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( Yeah, that makes sense...and I was thinking Rex and Rudger didn't even duel. They kind of just talked and Rex was like "I don't want to kill my older brother' or something. Or, he set off Mormetn so that Yuusei could meet his father who is the King of the Underworld, AND THE WHOLE THING IS ORCHESTRATED BY FUDO-PAPA and that is why Yuusei is targeted. ) ...did I think too much into that?
;__; I'M LIKE DUUURRRR RIGHT NOW.
Oh, well, I was thinking the Earthbound Gods chose people who had connections to the Signers in some way. And that they choose the person when they are dieing ( or are very close to dieing ) and then try to persuade them. I don't really think it has anything to do with them wanting to live ( although it might play a part in it ) it's just they choose the time when they are mentally vulnerable and that them 'entering' the person's body is actually the thing that kills them. I mean, you never know WHY Misty was in the hospital, and the doctors might have been able to cure her. ( And while I was thinking that Misty didn't even have a brother and was brainwashed by her God, I'm starting to think maybe not? ) Kiryu, while he might have had a hatred for Yuusei, seemed to be pretty mentally vulnerable. So if that is true, then nothing really caused his death besides his Earthbound God. ( And for Signer connections: Kiryu - Yuusei, Misty - Aki, Rudger - Himself, Carly - Jack, Demak I think said that he had an intense hatred for the Signers, and Bomber...I don't know about him. )
OKAY, NONE OF THAT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE.
But, what I'm thinking is maybe the Earthbound Gods have something involved about the Dark Signers 'first death'? Like THEY are the ones who caused the deaths of them. ( And Carly falling out the window...maybe Aslla piscu had an eye on her and while she was falling (s)he made it's move right before she hit the ground? )
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Actually, that theory makes lots of sense. I never really thought about it in great detail before, I just assumed they picked people who died with regrets/vengance.
AND I'D MAKE A LONGER REPLY, REALLY I WOULD, BUT I'M TIRED AND I SHOULD BE SLEEPING SO I CAN WAKE UP IN TIME FOR THE FFFFFGLEEEE TOMORROW MORNING.
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8D; I'm glad it made sense. I felt I rambled waaaay too much.
AND THAT IS OKAY, SLEEPING IS GOOD FOR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN TODAY!!!
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Actually, I meant that the revenge part / them wanting to continue living played as much as Misty made it out to be. ( I don't remember if anyone else had said something about that. ) But she kept saying it was because it chose her and that it was her fate / destiny, as well as it was because she wanted to keep living.
( Also, I am about to bawww thinking about the episode. ;______; )
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STILL NOT FULLY AWAKE YET BUT I'D FEEL HORRIBLE IF I DIDN'T ATTEMPT TO REPLY.
...And wow. I'm impressed with the thought that you two put into these deaths.
(A lot of the DS's seem to like preaching about fate, don't they? It's GX's season two's "destiny" all over again...except this time, it's riveting. :D
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LOL. To be honest, so am I. I normally don't think this hard. But I was just wondering about Misty because Aki didn't believe she killed someone...
( And oh god, yes. I'm gonna start doing that. I'll be shot though. )
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I heard that in July we'll get a new opening so I doubt that the show will end. Probably will move on to Ylliaster. Or perhaps if Divine gets retrieved we'll have also some more Arcradia Movement.
So I agree with what
For me, the man with the two gods, clearly is Rex, the two gods being a generic titel for the EBGs and the Crimson Dragon (or perhaps 5th Dragon, but personally I don't see the Dragons as gods).
Your theory about Yusei being the one to connect with the KoU makes sense. Somehow. Can't elaborate that (*is still to sleepy for that*). But I don't think it is actually Fudou-papa even if he is the one to appear at the end of 58. I don't even think that what we see in 58 is the Underworld. I think that Zombieworld is more like a rift-thing between worlds (Real World und Underworld) and "You shouldn't be there yet" is more like scolding him that it isn't is time to die.
Oh well that are my two cents in a nutshell. I'd write more but I've got to get ready for school. ^^°
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Moar votes for Rexykins. I'm liking the reasoning I'm hearing.
You can elaborate when you come back. Good luck with school! ^^