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northwind_gale) wrote2019-03-06 07:06 pm
gale and reffie yell about fe6
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
IDUNN!! ! !! !
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
HER
housepherae:
HER ART LOOKS SO GOOD RIGHT??
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET I JUST HEARD THAT IDUNN WAS GONNA BE A UNIT
AND I WAS LIKE !!!!
YES
SHE
housepherae:
OH YEAH SHES ON BANNER
RED ARMOR DRAGON
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
PLEASE GIVE US MORE LINES FROM HER POV INTSYS SHE'S SO FASCINATING
WAIT WHAT
BANNER???
NOT GHB
!!!BLESSED
housepherae:
RIGHT I DIDNT EXPECT IT EITHER
I CANT WAIT FOR THE REST OF HER LINES + LEVEL 40 CONVO
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
LUGH ! !! !!
HE'S SO CUTE
FINALLY, RAIGH HAS HIS BROTHER
housepherae:
HES BABY BOY
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
SAD FAMILY CAN FINALLY BE TOGETHER
housepherae:
SUE LOOKS GREAT TOO
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
s u ueEEE
housepherae:
AND I WASNT EXPECTING TATE TO BE THE BLUE
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
HHHHH
HHh!h!h!!!hHHH
THE
THE ART
ON THOSE WINGS
HH ?!?!?!!?!?!
LOOK HER
housepherae:
IT'S SO SICK
IM SO READY FOR THIS BANNER
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
oooogGGGHHHH
I NEED
IDUNN
I'D BE HAPPY WITH ANY OF THESE DARLINGS BUT
IDUNN
housepherae:
I SEE PEOPLE ON MY FEED TALKING ABOUT GUSTAV LIKE?? YALL PAYIN ATTENTION TO THE WRONG THING. IT'S BINDING BLADE HYPE TIME
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
consider: binding blade characterfs and their respective legacies/traumas regarding parents actually talking to alfonse through this
but we wouldn't be lucky enough to get that unless Forging Bonds
(the recent forging bonds have been sooooooo much better now that they're not summoner focused tbh i love??? them)
housepherae:
There's so much they could expand on with these characters now that they're in the game..., intsys please give us what we deserve
HONESTLY.
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
what did we do to deserve this banner
other than wait five million years
housepherae:
intelligent systems I owe you my life twice in a row
Too bad legendary Roy's banner KILLED my orb count but I wouldn't trade him for the world
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
me, sitting here with my orb hoard
time to die
i know i said i would burn through all my orbs on legendary roy's banner but now i know
this is the banner that will eat my orbs
i feel it
housepherae:
I hope all the FE6 fans have decent luck on this. we've waited too long to be cheated smfh
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
okay but god...?? god
have i ever mentioned that i like
i really
really want more
on the character dynamics between idunn and zephiel
housepherae:
HARD KIN
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
like on the one hand zephiel is the person who awakened her and gave her a purpose again other than being an empty tool but on the other hand . . . she's been asleep for so long and empty for so long she doesn't recognize that freedom as such until much too late
and like
it's not like they're [fond] of each other or anything but like
there's that weird
i don't know the word for it
camaderie?
that shared purpose
housepherae:
yeah that's a good word for it.
it's unspoken but it's there
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
she's a dragon so since she's not human he can be. not fond of her but like
not [distrusting] of her
in a way that probably only murdock is as well???
(and probably also guin, but given circumstnaces that bond gets more and more strained/distant ovver time, y'know)
housepherae:
Yeah it's just slightly different but it's similar. Murdock has the boon of unwavering loyalty to him over time even against his father, but Idunn just. She wholly represents his ideals on who should stay in his new world so she gained the trust?) over an easier period
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
it could be that he idolizes her in a way and puts expectations/mindset/etc on her that
well, she does her best to live up to them, because she doesn't know anything else right now
zephiel: you will be the herald of a new pure clean world and usher in a world by dragons for dragons and only with dragons, a divine being
idunn: that doesn't sound right, but i don't know enough about me to question it.png
housepherae:
Idunn:
Yes it's exactly that she has the mind of a tool, except he of course sees it as a boon that she has no real thoughts or emotions of her own, nevermind the moral implications of what the dragons did to her. He's too set on his ambitions or clouded to care
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
or to note that hey. dragons can be kinda shitty to their own kind too
nope nope nothing wronge here! ! ! !
they clearly only did this because they were pressed by the humans and this was the only way they could deal when pressed to the wall ! ! !! ! ! duh
housepherae:
He doesn't understand that you can't go from one side of the spectrum to the other, which was a fucking good writing point! Humans get so focused on emotion they do awful things, but the dragons can also do things just as horrid because of their lack of moral concept or feelings humans have. Being focused on survival isn't always the best way to live.
*survival only
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
when you become so focused on those extremes, in either direction
you lose what makes the world so beautiful
housepherae:
god I love FE6's writing
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
it's honestly impressive how much they managed to fit in the barebones
"here's plot, do map, now more minor plot" structure that fe generally holds to
they really manage to do the uh
show, don't tell,
well, in those cutscenes
even with the lack of extra character portraits and such. just. dialogue alone is very strong
housepherae:
Oh definitely. It's something a game like say.. FE4 doesn't do very well. the dialogue is 90% banter with story blurbs near the beginning and end of their talking + the story overview before each chapter. But FE6 tried its best to tell the story THROUGH the character dialogue. Even something like updates on commanders positions or status on the enemy in the middle of a chapter turn made it so much better.
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
like
i know fe does the uh
"revolving boss in one map" thing a lot
you know how you think you're facing one boss but then later it switches out?
and it's usually pretty silly beause it's blatantly a ploy to scare you with big boss before giving you a more manageable one
but fe6 has such good character interaction or setting a scene with the revolving bosses that it's honestly interesting to watch
(the ones that come to mind are chasing after uh)
(acard and the other etrurian traitor?)
(because they're at first these imposing figures at the heart of the western isles' subjugation?)
housepherae:
YEAH. It's something I wish they'd bring back. I like seeing dialogue and updates from both sides of the war. It makes it easier to understand the situation if you have information other than what the boss is saying to your protag.
Yep and then we got to see them panic and cower through the rest of the etruria campaign
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
(and seemingly the ones orchestrating the lycian alliance's slow downfall/integration into etruria and then subsuming them into bern and seemingly setting up a situation where your army is divided from your home country and support and help and making you feel alone?)
(and then over time you see them degrade into pitiable figures that flail about once their role in being used by bern is over and they can't live up to expetations)
(so by thte time you face them they're absolute jokes of characters)
housepherae:
Oh and it's so satisfying
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
(still decently hard bosses, if only because THRONES, but on the other hand, the THRONE is the only thing saving them)
and of course, we can't forget the iconic REVOLVING BOSSES in djuto
i think it's called djuto?
housepherae:
Even with someone bigger like Narcian. Getting to see all his swap-outs through the rest of the game chapters come to bite him in the ass, and for all that boasting he's a JOKE of a boss. Even including the position bonus. It's just the details that make the writing good, even if it doesn't go super in depth
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
NARCIAN IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS TOO
like uh
you get a map held by an allied unit (cecelia) and it looks like "oh, this is going to be an endurance map, get to your allies before you lose the gate!"
and then zephiel shows up first turn and blows that possibility out of the water
housepherae:
And then Zephiel leaves it to Narcian, who shirks his duties AGAIN.
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
and then you have to deal with the dread of maybe dealing with THIS INTIMIDATING MAN, WITH HIS SPRITE THAT'S LITERALLY A HEAD TALLER THAN AN ACTUAL GROWN WOMAN ON HORSEBACK
AND IMPRESSIVE SPRITEWORK
housepherae:
THE SICKEST SPRITE ANIMATION EVER
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
(will i ever get over echesack's design and animation?)
(all signs point to no)
housepherae:
I SURE WONT
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
and then, like you said, he leaves it to narcian, who is still somewhat impressive figure (kinda, sorta, as long as he doesn't open his mouth)
and then he shirks his duties. again.
like you said
THAT'S ALSO A REALLY FUN REVOLVING BOSS ACTION
housepherae:
And it's also funny that by that point in the game, he probably would be an awful boss to deal with, because we're only around 10 chapters in and he has a magic weapon, but it's exactly the fact he left like a dumbass Roy can take the fort like it's no problem. We actually get to see his failures play out.
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
to think
roy came this fucking close
to dying with hector at araphen
housepherae:
Narcian is a scumbag but he had good writing as a man you're supposed to hate for his incompetence. It was SO fitting of him even in the last second at chapter 16 to scramble and try and pin his failures on Zeiss, even though by that point Murdock brought down the hammer on his influence and basically sentenced him to death facing the army there.
YEAH GOD
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
and also at etruria too
given that if he hadn't managed to call out to cecelia, and she and percival didn't manage to force the issue
while i'm pointing out etruria as an example can i mention how well and subtly country politics weaves its way into fe6's plot tho
like. it's basically what keeps roy from marching into bern/seeking out divine weapons before he's actually ready
housepherae:
The game did good in showing how desperate the situation was, as well as how even with Roy's lead he's still too inexperienced to do everything by himself. So of course he had close calls facing off again a military power like Bern.
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
but at the same time it's uhhhh
it's not [forced?]
you can like. you can see how the different dynamics between a small league of nobles versus a huge country superpower forces roy's hand in moving his army and how he's forced to adapt to such things
housepherae:
You're so right. I remember they tried to force it in FE7 by mentioning problems with the League and Bern near the beginning of some chapters but it felt like one off points. Definitely forced FE6 outlines political stances from the start of the game so keeping it running with the story progression wasn't an issue at all
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
it really makes you feel that roy really has everything against him
sickly father, sudden war
pulled away from his studies at the tender age of 15, barely has time to regroup and lead a small force to araphen to be his father's representative in the league
by the time he gets there, it's too late and the lycian league has pretty much been devastated at the meeting
thanks to bern's sneak attack
and him trying to fight against just those odds is only the fucking beginning
that's just. the opening act
it's so fucking good
housepherae:
Binding Blade god tier
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
also i like that
it doesnt' really feel like you have a lot of control over where you're going for the first two arcs?
like. roy's being pushed around by circumstance, by politics, etc
it really doesn't feel like he's able to do things on his own initiative and really get into the nitty gritty of the conspiracies until uh
i'd say the first step was deciding to join up with the resistance in the western isles, and then he really starts breaking away when he takes back djuto and turns towards arcadia, despite it not being a major territory in the world
*war
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
(it's not a huge territory politics wise, but plotwise? oh. it's so important. it's so key to everything that's behind all this and it's here where you really start finding answers. and more questions of course)
so i think in the western isles and post-djuto is where you really start seeing roy step up as a commander? instead of being a child forced into things beyond his control
i mean you see hints of it before but the real payoff is there?
housepherae:
That's true. I think that was good considering right before you go to the Isles there was that time stretch of inactivity bc of the truce(?) between Bern and Etruria. That quiet period was probably when Roy started to get his bearings on the situation and understand his role. He still may not be very experienced but he isn't so much flailing around trying to fill in the shoes of a last minute HIGH RANK position.
[TIMESKIP]
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
okay i have to head out to work but I wanna share this thought before I forget
more ppl need to write/talk about the brief time of "peace" between etruria and the western Isles arc
like just. Suddenly, War Is Over? But Not, because there's totally politics shit going on behind the scenes
and also roy worrying over whether he made the right decision basically signing over lycia to etruria via alliance when there's no visible enemy to show it
he and his father have both been given commanding positions in the army/alliance but they both know its a sham and just a move to keep them under etruria's thumb so they can't move freely
since they're essentially the only public faces left in lycia
its also a stealth ploy to keep guinivere under control and the fire emblem in their hands as a card since in the public's eyes (and in the feelings of everyone else involved) she's more aligned with lycia than etruria despite being in their court
nobles are fine with this because they dont trust her and ostracize her accordingly, lycia army is more protective of her because they've come to see her as one of them during their time together and bristle angrily at any attempts to snub her
faction warily at its finest
*ea
*warplay
and like you said, this is where Roy can really start flourishing as a leader and start growing into his strengths, especially since he's in a precarious situation politics wise and has to use all his fledgling diplomacy skills to their finest because all he has to keep him and lycia from disappearing into etruria and bern is his public reputation as the commander of the lycia liberation army
and that's an easy thing to lose. the people's acknowledgement is a fickle thing. all it takes is for them to decide that hey, they're tired of war and being with etruria is safer and down he goes the slippery slope
I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS AND NOT A LOT OF TIME SORRY 4 SPAMMING IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORN
BYE IM OFF TO WORK NOW
housepherae:
DONT WORRY I DONT MIND AT ALL. I LOVE READING THIS STUFF I JUST PASSED OUT HARD
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
YES I KNOW I JUST HAD A LOT TO SAY AND TUMBLR CHAT FUNCTION IS GARBAGE FOR LONG SPIELS
ALSO HI IM ON MY PLANNING PERIOD NOW WHATS UP
https://i.redd.it/hby8rxxo6gk21.png
!!!!!!
ARE WE GETTTING BINDING BLADE FORGING BONDS
ARE WE
PLEADE
PLEASE
IMBR BEGGING
housepherae:
YESSS WE ARE
IM SO EXCITED
IT'S IM ANNOUNCEMENTS IN FEH NOW
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
HHHHHH
TOMORROE
ITS ALL COMING TOMORROW I CANT WAITH
housepherae:
there's gonna be so much to do I can't wait I WONDER WHAT THE ACCESSORIES ARE GONNA BE
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
well based on thoee pics...
housepherae:
OH I MISSED THE LINK MB
aww sue's headband is cute
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
looks like idunn's crown/headpiece, sue's headband, a whitewing from tate and a little mage hood from lugh?
cute...
housepherae:
I. Love this banner!
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
ALSO IM ROARING AT TGAT ART I REBLOGGED FROM U
IDK IF YOU SAW MY TAGSPAM BUT ITS RLY CUTE AND EXACTLY WHAT I IMAGINE FROM HEROES
IM NGL I KNOW L!ROY HAS INFANTRY RIGHTS AND ALL BUT IF I GET IDUNN IM GIVING HIM DRAGON SUPPORT SKILLS AND RUNNING HIM IN A TEAM WITH IDUNN ZEPH AND FAE
FIGHT ME
housepherae:
HELL YES
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
i want...so many things...about idunn's recovery in arcadia
so many things
but nobody writes them
housepherae:
God me too we'll definitely get some good dialogue in this forging bonds since it's about the units' reasons to fight and I can't WAIT
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
please
i know I mentioned it as an aside aaaaages ago on some post somewhere but I wanna reiterate that I have a dumbass headcanon
that after roy's death
instead of the binding blade being passed down his family or given back to been
*bern
it's given to idunn to safekeep instead
kinda like a final step in her recovery, giving her agency over the blade and fire emblem that's directed so much of her life.
the blade that both sealed and freed her in succession or something
housepherae:
you. I like the way you think.
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
also its kinda a remibder of the three men who had a part in her recovery - hartmut, zephiel, ROY
why did autocorrect do that to his name I DIGTESS
*DIGRESS
ANYWAY ITS A DUMB HEADCANON BUT U WILL PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS
whether she learns to use it is another thing entirely but either way i want idunn to have it
housepherae:
NO ITS GOOD I PROMISE It's likely what Roy would want in the end anyways. the Binding Blade was pivotal to his campaign and though he's in tune with it he never really acts like it belongs to him.
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
even him taking it he's all "I'm not sure I deserve this?????"
anyone could take the fire emblem and shove it in the hilt and unlock it, in his mind
hell he probably thinks the right should go to guinivere, at least
em-exceeds-change-zearu:
but the action of him being the one to put it in was due to a long series of events that built up to it so even though it's such a simple locking mechanism its all the blade needs to choose its owner, I think